13 Oct 2007

Population growth of humans and animals needs debating

On one email discussion list I'm on, the issue of population growth was raised - some of my response is below - I include mainly because this issue is still not getting enough 'air time' and because the issue of animal population growth is something I haven't got my head around...and indeed appears even more of a not-talked about issue....

Population as a recent Ecologist article notes is a hot potato - Jonathon Porritt recently got attacked in a totally unreasonable manner in The Guardian by Madeleine Bunting - anyhow the figures on population growth are staggering and should be cause for concerns (read more at the Optimum Population Trust).

We had last year a Cafe Discussion in Stroud on this issue that produced some very interesting discussions - the main parties have still not grasped the radical change needed to tackle climate change - standby button, light bulbs etc are important but only a tiny part of the solution - and in reality we are still only talking only about one half of the equation: the emissions we generate, not how we generate them - indeed standby buttons and low-energy light bulbs are dwarfed by the pressure of a global population rising by the equivalent of Britain every year.

As one article notes: "Put simply, if governments want to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 60 per cent, and the world's population rises to the mid-range forecast of 9.2 billion, each person would in fact have to slash their emissions by 72 per cent."

Some population campaigners argue the world can only support a population of around three billion, some even less - but even if reducing the world's population is uncomfortable, it is worrying that there is not even a proper debate about this - certainly the biggest obstacle to debate is the matter of possible solutions. Here is another comment: "Propositions such as ignoring disease or limiting life-saving medical treatment can be ruled out as unacceptable, and birth control is objectionable to many on moral, religious and libertarian grounds. It is not surprising that green groups and politicians, worried about offending supporters, stay silent. There remains a fourth barrier to raising the population issue: even when people acknowledge the problem and brave the debate, it seems too big to solve. But there are things that can be done at least to reduce population growth."

Family Planning is one of those - over 200 million women in the world don't have access to 'safe and effective' contraceptive services plus some 45 countries have policies to increase birthrates. Certainly as noted in others comments to this list good family planning services, especially combined with women's education and human rights, are a part of the answer.

It was then that someone posted to the list: "By far the biggest population explosion is in animals which we are deliberately breeding for food. The number is now so great that they eat 5 to 10 times as much plant food as humans and compete with us for many scarce resources (especially land, water and fossil energy used in production) to supply a comparatively small quantity of meat. As well as breathing out CO2 they also produce methane which is 20 times more powerful. This area needs to be addressed, and could be dealt with a lot quicker than the human population."

This issue of the impact of animals on climate change is one I've raised before on this blog - but I have to say I wasn't aware of this explosion in numbers - it is absolutely right it needs tackling but we need to address both these issues - human and animal population growths - both have massive effects on climate change.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Population growth needs to be talked about more - it is a real threat - we can't take on climate change without looking at this issue

Anonymous said...

Addressing population growth is the greatest and most difficult challenge ahead of us. Getting this issue out into the public debate is incredibly difficult here in the States, as any intelligent discussion is immediately castigated by the religious right as being a polemic against children and Christianity. Typically, political leaders and/or candidates won't touch the issue of overpopulation and risk alienating those narrow-minded conservatives who refuse to recognize it as a critical component in the dwindling of resources, environmental integrity, and quality of life.

As for animal overpopulation -- it's a strong argument in favor of vegetarianism, or at least moderating one's carnivorous diet. But again, it's seen as another liberal ideal that aims to restrict one's right to consume as much as they please, be it meat or resources.

We desperately need strong leaders willing to break through this dangerous and outdated taboo and get the conversation going. It's looking bleak over here, but we'll keep trying.

Anonymous said...

Have to amend the comment I just sent to give credit to Al Gore! At least we have him doing the critical work those in office won't touch. Now if we can only get him to run for president.... : )

Charles Roffey and Fred O said...

Philip - you got me thinking about animals and eating meat... I think bio-fuel production can help us in all this or am I just being optimistic?

Philip said...

See posts re biofuels especially:
http://ruscombegreen.blogspot.com/search/label/Biofuels

And especially 9th May 2007 - I don't believe biofuels are the answer...indeed probably are only a very small part - certainly at present they are in many cases causing serious damage and adding to problems...

Charles Roffey and Fred O said...

My point about bio-fuels is that their production will force up the price of agricultural products which will help many agricultural people in countries in Africa, South America and Asia and so help their economies finally, after all the decades of agricultural subsidies in the EU and US, which have kept those people poor. With greater affluence, the need to produce large families recedes and we have part of the answer to human population growth. Higher prices for foodstuffs will make meat and dairy prroducts much more expensive, so encouarging a shift away from meat back to vegetable products.

Philip said...

Indeed you are right wheat prices have reached their highest ever - but sadly this rise in food prices is not helping the poorest - in many cases it is the corporations/ big agro-business that profits - there is food enough at the moment but the poor already have not enough cash to pay for it - biofuels will just make it worse in my view - indeed already some countries are unable to import wheat because the price has gone too high.

Greater affluence does usually lead to fewer children but it is not happening quick enough - the projected statistics are scary and it would take a massive shift to reduce population - a further problem with affluence is that means more meat (as we are seeing) and more CO2 from transport and indeed every other sector.....

As you note we need much higher prices for meat but then that again hits poorest.

Anonymous said...

The rich wear big boots

Anonymous said...

Just seen this on a Green party website - links are useful for discussion above - James

UK BIOFUEL TARGETS SNUB UN RECOMMENDATIONS

Parliament will discuss on Monday and Tuesday of next week whether to
approve the Renewable Transport Fuels Obligation (RTFO), which
requires that 5 per cent of the UK's fuels are sourced from biofuels
by 2010. In the same week, the UN Rapporteur on the Right to Food is
expected to renew his calls for a 5 year moratorium on the production
of biofuels - because of negative impacts on access to food for much
of the world's poor.

The UN has already warned that 'the sudden, ill-conceived, rush to
convert food ... into fuels is a recipe for disaster.' (1)

The Green Party recently voted at its Autumn conference to call for
an immediate moratorium on large scale monocultures of biofuels.(2)

Dr. Caroline Lucas, Green Party Principal Speaker, said:

"The rush to biofuels is already having a disasterous effect on some
of the world's poorest people - with increased food prices, increased
competition over land, forced evictions and increased scarcity of
water. (3)

"Most of the plants used for biofuels come from food crops such as
maize and wheat, which form the staple diet of millions of people who
already have uncertain access to food. The problem of food
insecurity in much of the world risks being exacerbated by the UK's
biofuel targets - creating competition between food and energy for
agricultural resources.

"It's estimated that to fill one car tank with biofuel requires
around 200kg of maize - enough to feed one person for one year . (4)

"|We are pitting the needs of the car drivers in the West for fuel
against the needs of much of the world's poor for food.

"The UN's Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food has called for a 5
year moratorium on biofuels, because of their impact on food
supplies, and is expected to this week renew his call. (5)

"It is incredible that in the same week that the the UK government
will try to force through regulations to rapidly introduce biofuels
and force UK consumers to buy them, a top UN official will call for a
5 year moratorium on biofuels because they are driving starvation."

"We face a simple choice - exploiting some of the world's poorest
people, denying them access to food, in order that we - the world's
rich - can continue in our profligate use of fuel."

ENDS

Notes for Editors:

The Renewable Transport Fuel Obligation (RTFO) will force all fuel to
contain 2.5% of biofuels from April 2008, rising to 5% in 2010. The
RTFO Order pass before Parliament next week.

(1) Please see page 2 summary of Statement of Special Rapporteur
Jean Ziegler on 22nd August 2007 (available from the Green Party
Press Office)

(2) Please see: http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/3160

(3) Please see pages 32 - 42 of the Statement of Special Rapporteur
Jean Ziegler on 22nd August 2007

(4) Please see paragraph 21, page 8 of the Statement of Special
Rapporteur Jean Ziegler on 22nd August 2007

(5) Please see paragraph 44, page 14 of the Statement of Special
Rapporteur Jean Ziegler on 22nd August 2007